Although I'm late in reporting this, John Saylor's training camp in Perrysville, Ohio last May was a fantastic experience. This photo shows Bill Montgomery working with Derrick Darling and David Fortin on cross gripping skills and was one of many outstanding aspects of the camp. The annual Shingitai Camp really more than simply a jujitsu camp, a judo camp, an MMA camp, a submission grappling camp or a self-defense camp. It's really all of these, and if you think that's an impossible thing to pull off, then you haven't been to one of John's camps. John's annual Shingitai Training Camp and SJA Convention is held every May, usually in the middle of the month. The facility John has is really a good one and it's held in Perrysville, Ohio. We had about 45 to 50 people at the 2010 camp this past May and if you want to attend the 2011 camp. call John at (419) 938-6089.